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Minggu, 10 Februari 2008

[FH] Re:This was for the group.. from Marthe-clarification my post today

Hi:

I should have proof-read my previous email..

I meant aspirin and not aspiring some more typos in there sorry.
Also - the raw diet was started 3 years ago Gina was very overwieght
(16 pounds for a very small built cat) and she has been at 12.5 pounds
for the past 3 years excluding the 4 months it took to transition her
to different food and away from kibble...also the lasix was started on
Feb 2 and we have been tapering off and I don't know how that will end
up except on a lower dose since thursday she is fine...on the 8th day
we will go 1/4 daily...on followup her lungs were clear..and she is
active eating and doing everything "normal" the next step will be 1/4
every other day...and then eventually off if no breathing issues...

--- In feline-heart@yahoogroups.com, "mrthhrndvs" <mrthhrndvs@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thank you Lyn, In Gina's case and I think she was at the humane
> society for a while but when I got her she was very subdued and it
> took time for her to become a happy cat....but that was in 2001,,she
> is doing well as far as her life quality and disposition go..
>
> To the group:
>
> I have gone for a second opinion or actually to see if there is more
> to do...The enlargement of the heart is concerning the fact that she
> is close to reaching the 3 year point, encouraging.
>
> The blood pressure results were great, this vet said the atenolol was
> working...there was a good femural pulse and I answered no to some of
> the questions he asked ie is she vomitting, is her appetite poor, is
> she having problems with elimination, (yes to using the litter box)
> active not hiding...well you get the picture..
>
> I was upfront about it being a second opinion and he had suggested
> aspiring to prevent heart attack...
>
> A few more questions about aspirin::
>
> We are on raw diet and I think this has helped all of my
> cats...changed when Gina received the 3 year life expectancy given the
> state of her heart at an ultrasound....
>
> After she seemed to be breathing a like she was congested she was
> placed on lasix with immediate results and the plan is to wean her off
> and at the same time watching how she responds which will determine
> if this drug will need to be given regularly and at which doseage..
>
> Currently: Lasix .5 tab (40mg) 1x daily until Thursday, then 1/4 tab
> lasix for another week and then 1/4 alternate days...to see if it is a
> drug that she will need longterm..ie will there be
> congestion..again..her lungs are clear now...she is on Atenolol (since
> april 2005, and fortekor 1/2 tab since April 2005)
>
> Questions about Aspirin:
>
>
> 1.Will a smaller dose of aspirin, every 3 days ie 1/4 tab or 1/2 tab
> (of 81 mg) do anything for the thinning of the blood. Is it
> ineffective to do so or is it in any way harmful...to give a lower
> doseage than .81/2x a week?
>
> 2.If there is blood pooling or clots there will aspirin dissolve them
> and cause them to move into the veins...or will it dissolve them
> before that happens...I am asking this because this could be the
> reason her heart is so large as well...
>
> 3.If aspirin therapy is stopped does that exasperate the problem..
>
> 4.I read "somewhere" that amino acids should not be used with aspirin
> therapy...
>
> I add vit e, salmon oil, taurine, cq10, vit d(trace), crushed
> eggshells,(calcium) egg yolk, cooked whites, celery, canned pure
> pumpkin, to a mixture of turkey muscle meat, chicken livers, and
> gizzards in a prepared formula that my cats get as a main part of
> their diets....will any of the above additives interact negatively
> with aspirin...
>
> 5. The issue of internal bleeding...can aspirin at a reduced does
> caution against...
>
> If these questions are unanswerable...I apologize...my second opinion
> vet said that aspirin will help prevent heart attack and I certainly
> want to do that .... can I start out low...ie 1/4 pill every three
> days...I know someone on the list also commented on dangers of aspirin
> and its potential affects on the liver...I want to get a little more
> on the doseage..as I would like to give her 1/4 every 3 days but need
> to know if that is harmful or just not enough to do anything...and I
> don't want to dislodge any potential clots if they are alread formed...
>
> Does any of this make sense to anyone??
>
>
> Marthe
>
> --- In feline-heart@yahoogroups.com, elfinmyst@ wrote:
> >
> > Hi Marthe
> >
> > I have two cats with HCM on atenolol. Both were stabilised on it,
and
> > neither has had progression. Maxi has definitely improved and Trixi
> has her repeat
> > echo on Monday to see how the atenolol affects her.
> >
> > Both mine were introduced to it very slowly, building up the dose
> over weeks
> > to see if it pushed them into heart failure. I had to drop to the
> previous
> > dose if they did, but we had no problems with it now at full dose.
> However,
> > I`ve heard it can push them into heart failure, but in my cases it
> didn't.
> >
> > Lyn
> >
> > www.furkids-uk.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

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