direstraits: Re: [All-E] Re: The Cheapest Way to Power Your Car

Marcel wrote: "Electricity to power automobiles is already cheaper than gasoline."

You're comparing a liquid fuel to a conversion and storage technology which requires another form of potential energy - like liquid fuels?

There is a name for what you are describing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_logic

There is a campaign to manufacture consent for technologies which can be controlled by the few - and when you present such circular logic to this forum, it contributes to that cause.

The logic coming from such a campaign doesn't have to make sense. It just has to raise doubt and change minds.

Mike

Marcel wrote:

Electricity to power automobiles is already cheaper than gasoline. And
nuclear electricity is the cheapest source of them all.

Both GM and Toyota will be selling plug-in-hybrids by 2010 to the
general public. And these vehicles in the long run are going to
dramatically reduce America's dependence on petroleum. However, these
plug-in-electric vehicles are also going to cause a dramatic increase
in the consumption of electricity. Hopefully, we'll have the nuclear
capacity in the near future to deal with the dramatic increase in
electricity consumption.

Marcel F. Williams

--- In All-Energy@yahoogroups.com, "dan brown" <b24664050@...> wrote:
>
> The Cheapest Way to Power Your Car | Alternative Energy | DISCOVER
> Magazine
>
>
> With the price per barrel of crude oil at a formerly panic-inducing
> $90, and at
> the pump, the price in many areas is no longer just flirting with $3
> a gallon.
> Imagine a world without gas-ï¿½guzzling combustion engines (it's easy if
> you try),
> where much of our technology isn't dependent on oil. We could then
> look
> objectively at how much each unit of energyï¿½usually measured in Btuï¿½
> costs and
> judge which energy sources make the most economic sense. Granted, a
> nuclear-powered car is not a likely alternative, but if it were
> possible to get
> other energy sources at the current taxed or subsidized cost into the
> gas tank,
> here's how the costs would compare.
> Information based on national averages from the Energy Information
> Administration, the Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy,
> and the
> National Renewable Energy Laboratory, all offshoots of the Department
> of Energy.
> Power plants measure energy in kilowatt-hours (kWh), and one kWh is
> equivalent
> to 3,413 Btu, or about 3 percent of the energy in one gallon of
> gasoline.
>
> *Based on California's high average price per kilowatt-hour,
> according to the
> California Energy Commission.
>